And also, you raise another point : if paypal can’t work, and if most of my players voted for the project just to support it and don’t intend to pledge on it (because they would have already donate on paypal before I started it, if that was the case) : what are the chances to raise enough money, in the end ?

It also seems they are some bullshitting about the fees.
Example for indiegogo, another funding platforms (not accepting porn, alas!) : fees about 5% if campaign is a success, 9% if fail, but you can still collect what you raise, use paypal, and american credit cards.
offbeatr : fees about 60$ upfront, + 30% if success, and you gain nothing if campaign fails, and can’t use paypal and american credit cards…
No, the more it goes, the less I think it’s worth it…

I’ll write all that down for everyone, I don’t think I will go on with this :/

personally i have no idea about sites like this, i checked kickstarter out once, but since they only accept credit cards (no paypal, wtf?) i just turned around

maybe you can even find someone who had a project funded via offbeatr and ask him/her how it worked out?

Yep, as I said, I understand the virtual trust building value of “pledges” system on those kind of sites.
It’s just… yes, what you give on one hand to pledgers, you take back on the other from creators.
It’s a valid way of thinking (even if I don’t personally agree), but I think it’s done really uncarefully, on offbeatr.
So much odd details that shake creators trust! Did you notice their search bar system doesn’t work either ? Man, do anyone really worked on that website ?? We’re talking very big money, for some of the projects, and they can’t even have a proper site & FAQs ?

But yeah, I suppose paypal donations wouldn’t be as high.
Even if I propose several rewards to donators (which they almost always turn back on, I don’t know why, but it’s very noble, lol!), and show donations amounts, which “emulates” some visibility in what comes and goes.

For offbeatr gifts, I don’t why what I could add, it’s already very “generous”, given it’s a one-man amateur entreprise.
For versions in particular, it’s been asked sometimes. Problem is I’m too forward-giving, it seems. Everything I produce, I release it, so everyone can enjoy it the very moment it’s done.
I don’t hold back stuff or “pre-release” and betas, like everyone seems to be doing, in gaming industry, those days.
Just like passcodes and secret features like bonus poses : people FORCED me to do stuff that are not directly accessible.
Just why ? Why voluntarily hide and hold back stuff when it would be easier to give it to everyone directly ?
Lol, maybe a little off debate, sorry.

For Xstoryplayer, as far as I saw, they promised stuff “before 12/2015″, so, you will probably not hear of them for until next year. :/

Anyway, thx for sharing, I will take that into account.

I’ve read your post and support your project on offbeatr.
I don’t know if you’re making a mistake doing a campaign over offbeatr.
Maybe using Paypal is more simple but maybe it’ll gather less people as they don’t have “guarantee” of their money.
Through offbeatr, the thing is more serious.
As you said, you’re engaging yourself personnally on this project and you’re more exposed.

The campaign you run on offbeatr doesn’t give so much to the pledgers, like giving access to features or version in the future.
Maybe if you give people more “gifts” for supporting you they’d give you more money.
For example I’ve supported 120$ on XstoryPlayer through offbeatr, and I don’t have anything by now. (almost 6 months since the payment).
But I give them time and I think they’re serious.
I’m not sure I’d have give 120$ through a paypal donation as easily.

I’ve contribute to others projets on offbeatr and made donation for other websites like your.
Maybe people would support you easier on offbeatr than donate over Paypal…

So this is my point of view, it’s not an advice just a thought.
Regards